{"id":99,"date":"2016-09-16T10:26:59","date_gmt":"2016-09-16T10:26:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/itnigblog.live-website.com\/hacker-bootcamps-vs-universities-what-to-choose-and-whats-in-it-for-the-future"},"modified":"2020-06-11T13:18:35","modified_gmt":"2020-06-11T13:18:35","slug":"hacker-bootcamps-vs-universities-what-to-choose-and-whats-in-it-for-the-future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/itnig.net\/blog\/hacker-bootcamps-vs-universities-what-to-choose-and-whats-in-it-for-the-future\/","title":{"rendered":"Hacker Bootcamps VS. Universities: What to choose and what&#039;s in it for the future?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Hacker Schools vs. Universities is there room for both?\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nSAfB3Z3Luc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Hacker schools or bootcamps are getting more and more popular. You&#8217;ll learn a programming language in 2\u20133 months, and you&#8217;re more or less guarantied a full-time well paying job.<\/p>\n<p>If you compare this to signing up to a four-year degree at a University and getting tons of study loan, the short-cut through a hacker school is obviously tempting.<\/p>\n<p>But what are the incentives to attend university, and does a \u201cdegree\u201d from a hacker school limit you in any way?<\/p>\n<p><em>We asked the experts.<\/em><\/p>\n<h4>\u201cIf you want to work go to a hacker school, if you want to work at Google, go to University\u201d<\/h4>\n<p>The big pro about hacker schools is obviously that the distance from the school to work is a lot shorter, but is a person well prepared to work in a startup after graduating from a 2\u20133 months program?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cYou can not become a CTO with just a bootcamp experience!\u201d (Marc Alier,\u00a0UPC)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>CEO and co-founder at Codeworks a Barcelona bootcamp, <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/u\/b24039f8b9cf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alessandro Zanardi<\/a>, acknowledge that universities are vital for training specialists in more complex computer science areas:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We need engineers that have stronger theoretical experience. If you\u2019re dealing with big data or artificial intelligence you need developers that have a university degree. If you want to work at Google with AI, get a Ph.D.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure>\n<\/figure>\n<h4>The university problem<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/u\/b8ee89316541\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Marc Collado<\/a> is director at Iron Hack Barcelona, a bootcamp that also have campuses in Miami and Madrid. Even though Collado now represents a bootcamp, he himself went through a five-year University program at IQS:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The universities are too embedded in society. At Iron Hack we analyze the job market, and work towards creating a program that actually helps businesses hire a much needed workforce, and gets people into jobs.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/u\/d472679a6420\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ludo (Marc Alier)<\/a> hopes universities change the way they treat their professors and teachers, and agrees with the bootcamp hackers that there is a lot to be improved with the institution stretching thousands of years back:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The problem with University is that the professors are incentivized to be researchers, not to be good teachers. You get promoted if you&#8217;re good researcher, not if you have experience from tech companies or do a great job as a teacher.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h4>Bootcamps do not build\u00a0CTO&#8217;s<\/h4>\n<p>Professor Alier is grateful that bootcamps fill a whole and a demand in the market, but he wants to make one thing very clear:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I have seen examples where people have finished bootcamps, and they&#8217;re told that they can start a company. I&#8217;ll tell you this, they always screw up, always!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He continues:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You can not become a CTO with just a bootcamp experience!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Zanardi at Codeworks does not like the negativity towards the concept of screwing up:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This is a classic example of the difference between bootcamp mentality and university mentality. The best people from all sectors and industries are people that know what it&#8217;s like to fail hard.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Also Iron Hack&#8217;s Collado weighs in on the CTO statement:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A CTO needs more soft skills than hard skills, it&#8217;s about experience, recruiting, mentoring, but yes of course the guy needs to be technical, that&#8217;s for sure.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u2026\u2026\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>The post\/video\/podcast was produced by <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/u\/edb2f3e669ff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sindre Hopland<\/a> &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/u\/4a71dd742203\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Masumi Mutsuda<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.itnig.net\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">itnig<\/a> media team.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/forms\/gBIKRZP0fnqmaFda2\">https:\/\/goo.gl\/forms\/gBIKRZP0fnqmaFda2<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hacker schools or bootcamps are getting more and more popular. 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